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WOODFORD GRN: Speed camera 'increasing accidents'

12:49pm Monday 8th September 2008

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By Daniel Binns »

RENEWED demands have been made for a speed camera to be removed after the latest figures revealed accidents have continued to rise since it was installed.

According to the Highways Agency there have been at least two serious accidents every year along the southbound carriageway of the M11, where it passes Woodford Green Athletics Club, since the device was put there in May 2001.

In the five years prior to 2001, there was only one serious accident and one death.

Motorist Hamish Birchall, who regularly uses that stretch of road, has been protesting against the camera for more than a year.

Mr Birchall says he is convinced the camera is to blame for the rise in accidents, and wants MPs to get involved in his campaign.

“Accidents have gone up. The unavoidable conclusion is that something about that camera in that location has made the road more dangerous,” he said.

Mr Birchall, who had to pay out £60 last year when he was caught breaking the 50mph speed limit, added: “This is a camera which brings in a large amount of annual income and it is being kept there because of the revenue.”

But people worried about the number of deaths on Redbridge’s roads, such as council cabinet member Cllr Michael Stark, said such devices are helping to save lives.

“I see no problem with that speed camera at all. It is perfectly visible and clearly signposted,” he said.

“If you hit people at a slower speed they don’t die. It’s that simple. If people drove slower there wouldn’t be as many accidents in Woodford or elsewhere.

“If you get caught by a camera you have to ask, are you really a good driver?”

Road safety campaigners argue the rise is actually due to an increase in the number of cars on Woodford’s roads, coupled with bad driving.

Cynthia Barlow, chair of Roadpeace, said: "According to the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety, which issued a new report in July 2008, at least 100 lives are saved every year by speed cameras.

"We need to tackle the very entrenched ideas that people have about them. Speed cameras do save lives. What causes crashes is people speeding then slamming on the breaks when they see a camera - it's dangerous driving.

"Over 3,000 people are killed on our roads every year, and in many of those cases speed is a significant factor.

A spokesman for the Highways Agency said: “After analysing the accident data from that stretch of road, the Highways Agency is satisfied that the camera is not contributing to accidents in that location.

“These types of cameras are installed to improve safety and that’s what they do.”

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ericbrip, St Albans says...
5:11pm Mon 8 Sep 08

It's not just this camera. All speed cameras have negative effects. The BBC recently showed footage of cars crashing due to braking hard in response to seeing a speed camera. In the north of Scotland, fatalities have increased 30% PER YEAR since cameras were introduced.
To refer to speed cameras as safety devices while using them as revenue generators is almost certainly fraud.
And claims that lives have been saved by speed cameras is nonsense - there is NO evidence to support this claim frequently trotted out by the camera supporters. Just ask yourself how can a camera, which tells you that you were exceeding a limit two weeks ago, save a life? It is a con of the greatest order.

Insight, says...
8:16am Tue 9 Sep 08

Right across the country, convictions dwindle as drivers adapt to the presence of cameras and casualtys continue much as they have done for over a decade.

The law has been changed to allow the use of hidden cameras, a clear admission that fixed cameras have failed.

In fact the only claim camera partnerships make is that collisions are reduced at camera sites and that was only acheived since they began suplementing the presence of a fixed camera with very expensive hi grip tarmac and even then that it hasn't always been effective enough to prevent collisions.

I really don't understand how organisations such as Roadpeace manage to sleep at night when they attempt to spin what is in reality and should be obvious to anyone 'a pathetic result.'

Any life saved is indeed a good one, but seeing as they've now had well over a decade, isn't it time to accept that the policy just might not be addressing the issue and move onto to something that may actually make a bigger difference?

Or is this obsession with trying to change driver attitude, (which was never actually proven to be the problem and is at best an emotive assumption) and the ongoing stubborn resistence to admit failure going to be costing another 3000 lives again this year?.

Please, have the wisdom to return to policing our roads properly again and stop this government taking away the targets and funding to real police for casualty reduction.

Insight, says...
8:25am Tue 9 Sep 08

The emotive propaganda and buck passing of the camera partnerhips is beginning to come apart at the seems and eventually Councillor Stark it may dawn on you and your easily lead kind, that the public see you in the same light as the man who said the Titanic was unsinkable.

RWJ, Woodford says...
12:59pm Thu 11 Sep 08

More classic gobbledy-gook from Cllr Stark then, to rival his comments last week on his other special responsibility, that for childrens services, that he believes 2,000 new school places created will be sufficient for the 4,000 newly borns in the borough. How do these people get to be Council spokesmen?

RWJ, Woodford says...
1:14pm Thu 11 Sep 08

Also beware another local speed camera likely to cause accidents from panic breaking due to a new speed limit reduction, Northbound on the dual carriageway opposite Woodford Wells and Hills. This has just been reduced from 40mph to 30mph, but the sign advising this is only just ahead of the camera on a small red road sign, less distance from the camera than the DVLA advise is a safe breaking distance from 40mph down to 30mph. How long before the shunting starts here then? About the same time as it takes for the fines income to start rolling in.

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